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    • #166552
      RPGould
      Participant

      Big fan of Misha, have been really having fun with it. I would like to know of there are plans to allow to record sequences in a more ‘traditional’ way… i.e. repeating notes, using more or less notes than there are in given scale, more steps (maybe up to 256?? ok, 64 is fine…), etc.

      That would be a really cool addition to the functionality of the modules, and I am sure that you guys would figure out other amazing sequencing and playability features….

       

    • #166589
      samchillian
      Moderator
      Eventide Staff

      Thanks for writing and glad you are enjoying the unit.

      I realize this isn’t quite what you are asking for, but with the current functionality of the unit, you can kind of ‘cheat’ the number of notes limitation by first creating your tone row in a scale that has a sufficient number of notes in the scale, and then once it begins playing you can change the scale to the one you would prefer to hear the pattern in.

      In fact, if you want 256 notes, in theory you could create a scale with that many notes to start with(!). But there may be a limit (below 256) on the number of notes allowed in a scale – I’m not sure, off-hand. Anyway, this is kind of a workaround for the number of notes limitation.

      Similarly, there is currently a way to hear repeated notes, though technically they wouldn’t be in the tone row. Once you are playing back your tone row, you press and hold User 4(+) and then press “0”. This creates a repetition in the ‘play sequence’.

      Anyway we do have plans to expand on the sequencing capabilities, and what you are requesting has been asked of us before, so we’ll certainly keep it in mind for future.

      Thanks

      Leon

    • #166595
      samchillian
      Moderator
      Eventide Staff

      Just realized you wrote “more or less notes” than the number in the scale. Actually, as things presently stand you can create a tone row with fewer notes than total number in the scale: you do this by pressing play after you have played the number of notes desired, essentially stopping the tone row early. Let me know if that works for you.

      Thanks

      Leon

    • #167752
      capsella
      Participant

      Hi,

      New Misha user here 🙂

      If I hold + and add a note with an interval button, say 0, while the tone row is playing, it adds it after each note rather than at the end of the sequence as the manual suggests. Is there a setting I need to change to have it only add a single instance at the end? Or am I mis understanding the manual?

       

      Adding to the Interval Button Sequence

      If user 4 (+) is pressed and held, then pressing an interval button will cause that interval to be appended to the end of the interval button sequence. One can even add multiple instances of such sequence intervals.

      • #167765
        samchillian
        Moderator
        Eventide Staff

        Hello- thanks for writing

        I can understand why in your example it seems as if it’s adding a 0 after every note- and actually it is, but technically the 0 isn’t being added to the tone row. Allow me to explain.

        There are really two sequences going on. The first is the tone row, which you’ve recorded. Once recorded, the tone row itself cannot be altered- you can change how it’s played back in various ways, but there is no way to add new intervals to it.

        The other sequence is called the “interval button sequence” and it specifies how you are navigating your tone row. By default, when you first record your tone row you hear it just as you recorded it, advancing one note in the sequence you recorded each time. In this case, the “interval button sequence can be represented as {+1}

        The best way to really understand this is to turn your clock off in the clock screen (and have no pulse coming into the clock jack). Then record a tone row. Just as when the clock is on, when you have filled up the tone row you will transition from record mode to playback – the red Rec light will go off and the green playback one will go on – but with the clock off nothing more will happen. That is, it will not start playing the tone row by itself. Now press “+1” repeatedly- this advances you through the notes you’ve recorded in the order you recorded them, just as you would expect. But you can also advance through them in a different order. For example you can go backwards through the tone row by repeatedly pressing “-1”, or go by 2’s (skipping every other note) by repeatedly pressing “2”. You could alternate pressing +2 and then -1 for example and hear a pattern related to what you’ve recorded but it will take longer to cycle, etc.

        Now turn the clock back on – it should be flashing the “+1” repeatedly as you hear your tone row.  The interval button sequence is just a way to automate what you just were experimenting with manually above.  Let’s say you liked what you heard when you played +1, -2, +3 in a cycle. So turn the clock back on and while the tone row is playing, now using the method you described (press and hold user 4 plus an interval button), add the second two of those 3 intervals to the interval sequence (the first, “+1” is already in there). As you add them you will see that the lights light up to indicate which one is being “played”. This sequence can be represented as {+1,-2,+3}, and it just means that the next note in the tone row will be determined by where you are in the interval sequence; I.e, first you will move one forward in your tone row, then back two and then three forward and then that cycle will repeat. This is an interesting way to get complexity out of your patterns, depending on how those intervals – and the length of the interval button sequence – relate to the number of notes in the original tone row.

        As I mentioned, as  far as what you are trying to do – add an interval to an already recorded tone row – at the present time we don’t allow the user a way to do that.

        Let me know if that makes things clearer.

        Leon

    • #167815
      RPGould
      Participant

      Glad to hear that you guys are considering alternative ways to work with the sequencer! Interesting suggestion, and will definitely give it a try. I guess what I was trying to say is that in addition to the already very interesting way Misha works, to also implement an option to have the sequencer work as a kind of looper where whatever you play using the interval keys gets recorded. So if I just wanted to play the same note twenty times and decide to end the loop there, that is what gets played back. Or if say I had C major pentatonic as my scale, and I play CCA C A A GGG CCC E C A C G A E C (leaving out one of the notes of the scale – or whatever) that is what gets played back.

      Very excited to see what you guys come up with with future firmware (and new gear in general!!) !!

       

    • #167824
      samchillian
      Moderator
      Eventide Staff

      RP Gould-

      Thanks- yeah we’ve heard something similar from other users. I realize that the tone row can be a little restrictive – in our defense we felt it was Misha’s unique contribution to the sequencer genre, and theoretically if you wanted a normal loop you could just loop the midi or audio coming out of Misha. But obviously it would be convenient to be able to do it optionally from Misha itself .

      <span style=”font-size: inherit;”>Anyway I appreciate your taking the time to post here- we will definitely look into this for future releases</span>

      Leon

    • #167976
      capsella
      Participant

      I’ve found I can get some good variety by sending a Euclidean trigger sequence in rather than a clock, just remember to set clock ppq to 1 (don’t ask how long it took me to realize that was why it wasn’t working at first 😉)

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